@aribali
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So ive done some research and come up with what i believe is a good stack for me, here are some personal stats including bloodwork:
Age: 16
Height: 173cm (5'8")
Weight: 65kg (143lbs)
Strength and build: Average joe or slightly skinny fat.
Some bloodwork i wanted to include (my lab mostly measures in nmol/L so i had to convert most of this):
Total testosterone is around 346ng/dL:
Estradiol-17beta is around 24.5pg/mL:
SHBG is 12 nmol/L (its usually measured in nmol/L anyways):
Free testosterone (the lab didn't provide what measurement it is in so i assume its ng/dL, which would be 9.9):
These were just some of the things that were measured in my bloodwork, i will attach the full result, ask me if there is any confusion since the test is in Norwegian:
Now that we are done with that, here is what i plan to run and for how long (my goal with this stack is masculinization, increased bone density and put on some lean muscle, overall just look better). It is important to note that i do not want to stunt my growth or my puberty in any way, so call me a retard if this cycle is gonna fuck up my growth or other factors.
Testosterone Enanthate: 200mg 2x a week (will run a 15 week cycle then pct)
HGH: 5iu daily. (start with 2iu and up by 2 the next week and then after that run 5). Gonna run it for really as long as i have the money for it, probably longer than my test cycle. Yes im a retard for thinking this will help me squeeze out a cm or two but let me cope :feelsrope: cause i hate being stuck at 5'8"
Ghk-CU: 2mg daily. (I've already been on it for 2 months+ and didn't see much effects but ima just keep running it cause why not).
Mt2: 150 or 200mcg 2x a week. (Been on this for like 1 month now and tbh it just made me get hella moles so idk if im gonna continue running this).
Accutane: 40mg a day then the next 20mg and then the next 40mg etc. (Yes i should've worded that sentence better but im retarted so i just hope you understood what i meant, ive been on accutane for 2 weeks now, im in the purging phase and i dont have much side effects apart from slightly dry lips and skin and some lower back pain).
Arimidex: 0.25mg EOD. (Will maybe up the dose to 0.5mg EOD if it doesn't reduce my E2 enough since i am paranoid i will accidentally close my growth plates). Or i may do this routine that i found in a BOTB thread (idk whats better so please help me out):
Ancillaries:
Fish oil: 2000mg daily
Vitamin d3: 20mcg daily
Vitamin k2: 200mcg daily
Zinc 26mg daily
And then for PCT we have:
hCG: 500iu 2x a week. (Will start pinning on the same day i pin test and start on last 5 weeks of my cycle) (will use it for like up until 2 months after cycle maybe?? (help me out))
Nolvadex: 20mg daily 2 weeks after my last test injection. (Will use it for 6 weeks)
Problems i currently have with the stack:
I don't have enough money to buy a sufficient amount of HGH. I already have test, arimidex, ghkcu, hcg, mt2 and really everything else except for nolvadex and hgh.
So my question is: should i just start with my cycle now and add hgh later when i save up enough money (will likely get hgh around week 7-8 of my cycle) or should i wait until i get my hgh before beginning my cycle? I want to get visible results before summer/during summer which means it wouldn't be optimal to start the cycle later. Any thoughts?
Another problem i have is with the consistency of my bloodwork. Since i am underage i don't have any effective way of getting bloodwork. Right now i get bloodwork when asking my general practitioner for it, and i cant do that frequently, which means i could be getting bloodwork maybe around every 3 months but i cant really make sure its consistent. Will this be a problem or is every 3 months fine?
I don't have any liver support ancillaries, but they shouldn't really be needed unless im taking oral steroids i think. The only liver stressing meds i take is accutane i assume.
Very important concerns:
I have read that high doses of test can significantly raise blood pressure and may lead to severe cardiovascular problems. Should i be concerned about getting high blood pressure from my dose (400mg weekly)? And if so how should i prevent it? Most medication like telmisartan requires a prescription and i don't have any sources i can buy blood pressure meds from. Would it be risky starting my cycle without any effective way to lower my blood pressure? (I am pretty scared of getting high bp). Any other ways i can lower it?
If im correct arimidex doesn't lower local E2 in growth plates, only serum E2. Would that be a problem if i would want to delay the closure of my growth plates? Or is it fine?
I'm concerned i may experience hair loss from the increased DHT in my body. Should i buy some finasteride and use it? I kinda don't want to lower my DHT since its pretty good to have a lot of while in puberty.
Final notes:
I appreciate any answers i can get and thoughts about whether im retarted or not. Tell me if there is anything i should modify or change in my stack and if any additional info is needed. Thanks for reading bhai
i spent some time making this post.
Age: 16
Height: 173cm (5'8")
Weight: 65kg (143lbs)
Strength and build: Average joe or slightly skinny fat.
Some bloodwork i wanted to include (my lab mostly measures in nmol/L so i had to convert most of this):
Total testosterone is around 346ng/dL:
Estradiol-17beta is around 24.5pg/mL:
SHBG is 12 nmol/L (its usually measured in nmol/L anyways):
Free testosterone (the lab didn't provide what measurement it is in so i assume its ng/dL, which would be 9.9):
These were just some of the things that were measured in my bloodwork, i will attach the full result, ask me if there is any confusion since the test is in Norwegian:
Now that we are done with that, here is what i plan to run and for how long (my goal with this stack is masculinization, increased bone density and put on some lean muscle, overall just look better). It is important to note that i do not want to stunt my growth or my puberty in any way, so call me a retard if this cycle is gonna fuck up my growth or other factors.
Testosterone Enanthate: 200mg 2x a week (will run a 15 week cycle then pct)
HGH: 5iu daily. (start with 2iu and up by 2 the next week and then after that run 5). Gonna run it for really as long as i have the money for it, probably longer than my test cycle. Yes im a retard for thinking this will help me squeeze out a cm or two but let me cope :feelsrope: cause i hate being stuck at 5'8"
Ghk-CU: 2mg daily. (I've already been on it for 2 months+ and didn't see much effects but ima just keep running it cause why not).
Mt2: 150 or 200mcg 2x a week. (Been on this for like 1 month now and tbh it just made me get hella moles so idk if im gonna continue running this).
Accutane: 40mg a day then the next 20mg and then the next 40mg etc. (Yes i should've worded that sentence better but im retarted so i just hope you understood what i meant, ive been on accutane for 2 weeks now, im in the purging phase and i dont have much side effects apart from slightly dry lips and skin and some lower back pain).
Arimidex: 0.25mg EOD. (Will maybe up the dose to 0.5mg EOD if it doesn't reduce my E2 enough since i am paranoid i will accidentally close my growth plates). Or i may do this routine that i found in a BOTB thread (idk whats better so please help me out):
Ancillaries:
Fish oil: 2000mg daily
Vitamin d3: 20mcg daily
Vitamin k2: 200mcg daily
Zinc 26mg daily
And then for PCT we have:
hCG: 500iu 2x a week. (Will start pinning on the same day i pin test and start on last 5 weeks of my cycle) (will use it for like up until 2 months after cycle maybe?? (help me out))
Nolvadex: 20mg daily 2 weeks after my last test injection. (Will use it for 6 weeks)
Problems i currently have with the stack:
I don't have enough money to buy a sufficient amount of HGH. I already have test, arimidex, ghkcu, hcg, mt2 and really everything else except for nolvadex and hgh.
So my question is: should i just start with my cycle now and add hgh later when i save up enough money (will likely get hgh around week 7-8 of my cycle) or should i wait until i get my hgh before beginning my cycle? I want to get visible results before summer/during summer which means it wouldn't be optimal to start the cycle later. Any thoughts?
Another problem i have is with the consistency of my bloodwork. Since i am underage i don't have any effective way of getting bloodwork. Right now i get bloodwork when asking my general practitioner for it, and i cant do that frequently, which means i could be getting bloodwork maybe around every 3 months but i cant really make sure its consistent. Will this be a problem or is every 3 months fine?
I don't have any liver support ancillaries, but they shouldn't really be needed unless im taking oral steroids i think. The only liver stressing meds i take is accutane i assume.
Very important concerns:
I have read that high doses of test can significantly raise blood pressure and may lead to severe cardiovascular problems. Should i be concerned about getting high blood pressure from my dose (400mg weekly)? And if so how should i prevent it? Most medication like telmisartan requires a prescription and i don't have any sources i can buy blood pressure meds from. Would it be risky starting my cycle without any effective way to lower my blood pressure? (I am pretty scared of getting high bp). Any other ways i can lower it?
If im correct arimidex doesn't lower local E2 in growth plates, only serum E2. Would that be a problem if i would want to delay the closure of my growth plates? Or is it fine?
I'm concerned i may experience hair loss from the increased DHT in my body. Should i buy some finasteride and use it? I kinda don't want to lower my DHT since its pretty good to have a lot of while in puberty.
Final notes:
I appreciate any answers i can get and thoughts about whether im retarted or not. Tell me if there is anything i should modify or change in my stack and if any additional info is needed. Thanks for reading bhai
i spent some time making this post.